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FINAL – Spanish Air Controller @ Kiev Borispol Airport: Ukraine Military Shot Down Boeing #MH17

FLASH UPDATEIndustry Outlet Confirms Carlos (@spainbuca) as ATC at Borispol in Kiev

(See the Text of Carlos / @spainbuca Tweets Below the Article)

OriginalEturboNews (ETN Global Travel Industry News) – July 17, 2014

ETN received information from an air traffic controller in Kiev on Malaysia Airlines flight MH17.

This Kiev air traffic controller is a citizen of Spain and was working in the Ukraine. He was taken off duty as a civil air-traffic controller along with other foreigners immediately after a Malaysia Airlines passenger aircraft was shot down over the Eastern Ukraine killing 295 passengers and crew on board.

The air traffic controller suggested in a private evaluation and basing it on military sources in Kiev, that the Ukrainian military was behind this shoot down. Radar records were immediately confiscated after it became clear a passenger jet was shot down.

Military air traffic controllers in internal communication acknowledged the military was involved, and some military chatter said they did not know where the order to shoot down the plane originated from.

Obviously it happened after a series of errors, since the very same plane was escorted by two Ukrainian fighter jets until 3 minutes before it disappeared from radar.

Radar screen shots also show an unexplained change of course of the Malaysian Boeing. The change of course took the aircraft directly over the Eastern Ukraine conflict region.

Some tweets received suggest this may have been a secret military uprising against the current Ukrainian president under the direction of formerly-jailed Prime Minister Timoshenko.

According to other rumors, the black box for this crashed Malaysian Airlines flight was taken by Donetsk separatists. A spokesperson for the rebel group said this black box would be sent to the Interstate Aviation Committee headquartered in Moscow.

The First Deputy Prime Minister of the self-proclaimed People’s Republic of Donetsk, Andrew Purgin, stated that the flight recorders of the crashed aircraft will be transferred to Moscow for examination.

Sources say the Rebel group leadership hopes this would confirm the Ukrainian military actually shot down this aircraft. This was reported by the news agency Interfax-Ukraine.

ETN statement: The information in this article is independently confirmed and based on the statement of one airline controller and other tweets received.


Translated from Spanish by Luis Lopez
Source: Tweets by Spanish Air Controller – @spainbuca


CHRONOLOGY OF @spainbuca’s TWITTER FEED

10:21 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Autoridades de kiev, intentan hacer que pueda parecer un ataque de los pro-rusos

“Kiev Authorities, trying to make looks like an attack by pro-Russian”

10:24 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Ojo! Que puede ser un derribo B777 Malaysia Airlines en ukraine, 280 pasajeros

“warning! It can be a downing, Malaysia Airlines B777 in ukraine, 280 passengers”

10:25 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Cuidado! Kiev tiene lo que buscaba

“Warning! Kiev have what they wanted”

10:25 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Vuelven a tomar la torre de control en Kiev

“[Miitary] has taken control of ATC in Kiev”

10:27 – 17 de jul. de 2014 El avión B777 de Malaysia Airlines desapareció del radar, no hubo comunicación de ninguna anomalia, confirmado

“The Malaysia Airlines B777 plane disappeared from the radar, there was no communication of any anomaly, confirmed”

10:30 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Avión derribado, derribados, derribado no accidente

“Plane shot down, shot down, shot down, no accident”

10:31 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Kiev, tiene lo que buscaba, lo dije en los primeros tw, kiev es responsable @ActualidadRT

“Kiev have what they wanted, I said in the first tw [Tweets], Kiev is responsible @ ActualidadRT”

10:35 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Un accidente muy normal no es, no están amenazando en la misma torre del aeropuerto de kiev,

“An accident that is not quite normal, they are threatening us in the same tower of Kiev airport”

10:35 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Nos van a quitar, nuestros tlf y demás de un momento a otro

“they will take from our phones and others stuff at any moment”

10:38 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Antes de que me quiten el tlf o me rompan la cabeza, derribado por Kiev

“Before They remove my phone or they break my head, shot down by Kiev”

11:12 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Nosotros tenemos la confirmación. Avión derribado, la autoridad de kiev, ya tiene la información, derribado, estamos tranquilos ahora

“We have confirmation. Plane downed, Kiev authorities already have the information, downed, we are calm now”

11:13 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Que hace personal extranjero con autoridades de kiev en la torre? Recopilando toda la información

“What are doing foreigners with kiev authorities in the tower? Gathering all the information”

11:15 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Cuando sea posible sigo escribiendo

“When possible I´ll keep writing”

11:48 – 17 de jul. de 2014 El avión B 777 voló escoltado por 2 cazas de ukraine hasta minutos antes, de desaparecer de los radares,

The B777 plane flew escorted by Ukraine jet fighter until 2 minutes before disappearing from the radar,

11:54 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Sí las autoridades de kiev, quieren decir la verdad, esta recogido 2 cazas volaron muy cerca minutos antes , no lo derribo un caza

“If kiev authorities want to tell the truth, It´s gathered, 2 jet fighters flew very close minutes before, wasn’t downed by a fighter”

12:00 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Nada más desaparecer el avión B 777 de Malaysia Airlines la autoridad militar de kiev nos informo del derribo, como lo sabían?

“Malaysia Airlines B777 plane just disappeared and Kiev military authority informed us of the downing, How they knew?”

12:00 – 17 de jul. de 2014 A los 7:00 minutos se notificó el derribo, más tarde se tomó la torre nuestra con personal extranjero q siguen aquí

“7:00 minutes after [plane dissapeared], the downing was notified, later our tower was taken with foreigner staff, they still here ”

12:01 – 17 de jul. de 2014 En los radares esta todo recogido, para los incrédulos, derribado por kiev, aquí lo sabemos y control aéreo militar también

“all this is gathered in radars, to the unbelieving, shot down by kiev, here we know it and military air traffic control also”

13:15 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Aquí los mandos militares manejan y admiten que militares a otras órdenes, pudieron ser, pero no, los pro-rusos

“Here the military commanders manage and support it could be military following other orders , but no, the pro-Russian”

13:29 – 17 de jul. de 2014 El ministro del interior si conocía que, hacían los cazas en la zona, el ministro de defensa no, .

“Interior Minister knew what the fighters were doing in the area, the defense minister didn’t.”

13:31 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Militares confirman que fue ukraine, pero se sigue sin saber de donde vino la orden

“Military confirm It was Ukraine, but still does not know where the order came from”

13:36 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Hace dias lo dije aquí, militares de kiev querían alzarse contra el actual presidente, esto puede ser una forma, a las órdenes de timoshenko

“Days ago I said here, kiev military wanted to rise against the current president, this may be a way, ordered by timoshenko [following timishenko orders]”

13:38 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Los cazas volaron cerca del 777, hasta 3 minutos antes de desaparecer de los radares, solo 3 minutos

“The fighters flew close to 777, up to 3 minutes before disappearing from the radar, just 3 minutes”

13:43 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Se cierra el espacio aéreo

“Airspace closed”

13:45 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Se cierra el espacio aéreo, por miedo a más derribos

“Airspace is closed, more downings feared”

15:17 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Control militar entrega ahora mismo de forma oficial que el avión fue derribado por misil

“military control now officially [say] the plane was shot down by missile”

15:23 – 17 de jul. de 2014 El informe oficial firmado por las autoridades militares de control de kiev ya lo tiene el gobierno,,,, , derribado

“Government has the official report signed by the control military authorities in Kiev,,,, [plane] shot down”

15:26 – 17 de jul. de 2014 En el informe se indica de donde abría salido el misil, y se especifica que no proviene de las autodefensa en las zonas rebeldes

“The report indicates where the missile had come out [from], and specified is not from the selfdefence in rebel areas”

15:34 – 17 de jul. de 2014Los radares militares si recogieron los datos del misil lanzado al avión, los radares civiles no

“Military radar collected data from missile fired to the plane, civilian radars didn’t”

15:36 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Los altos mandos militares no ordenaron el lanzamiento del misil, ,,alguien se le fue la mano en nombre de ukraine

“military high command did not gave the order to fire the missile, someone screw it ine the name of ukraine”

15:38 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Para el que no lo sepa, digamos así, hay militares a las órdenes del ministro de defensa y militares a las órdenes del ministro del interior

“For those who do not know, Let’s say, there are military under the orders of the defense minister and military under the orders of Interior Minister”

15:38 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Los militares a las órdenes del ministro del interior conocían en cada momento lo que sucedió, .

“The military under the orders of Interior Minister knew what happened all the time .”

16:06 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Mandos militares aquí (ATC) torre de control, confirman que el misil es del ejercito de ukraine,

“Military commanders here (ATC) control tower, confirm that the missile is from the ukranian army,”

16:07 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Mandos militares que si lo sabían y otros mandos que no,

“military commanders that knew it and others didn´t ,”

16:08 – 17 de jul. de 2014 290 personas inocentes muertas, . Por una guerra inútil, donde el patriotismo se compra con dinero

“290 dead innocent people. What a useless war, where patriotism is bought with money”

16:09 – 17 de jul. de 2014 La forma de tomar la torre de control minutos después sabiendo todo los detalles, rápido nos hizo pensar que habían sido ellos

“Thw way the control tower was taken minutes after & knowing all the details, made ​​us think that they [made it]”

16:10 – 17 de jul. de 2014 La cara de los militares que llegaron más tarde diciendo pero que habéis echo, no dejo dudas

“The face of the soldiers who came later saying [what you just did], no chance for doubts”

16:12 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Es tal la decadencia que los militares acompañados de extranjeros que llegaron primero nos llegaron a pedir que dijéramos su versión

“Such is the decline that military who came first accompanied by foreigners came to us asking us to tell their version”

16:13 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Nuestra respuesta, fue, estos radares no recogen el lanzamiento de misiles, los militares si, ya no quedaban dudas

“Our response was, these radars do not collect the launching of missiles, the military ones does, there were no doubts”

Discussion

163 thoughts on “FINAL – Spanish Air Controller @ Kiev Borispol Airport: Ukraine Military Shot Down Boeing #MH17

  1. This is crazy if true. The western media will now push as hard as they can to hide the truth and accuse Russia. I believe more to a foreign traffic controller tweeting live than to US propaganda. This person can be identified by coworkers to really be the author. Then a shitstorm will happen.

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    Posted by Pushka | July 18, 2014, 1:19 am
  2. If this is true the Air traffic controller is in real danger!! if they just killed 300 people by shooting down a civilian passenger jet the Junta have no qualms killing one honest man.

    Liked by 1 person

    Posted by jp | July 18, 2014, 1:49 am
  3. @spainbuca page shot down!

    Liked by 1 person

    Posted by Jennifer Florio (@fagitabowdit) | July 18, 2014, 6:55 am
  4. Reblogged this on B. Peret's Blog.

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    Posted by bperet | July 18, 2014, 7:06 am
  5. I am interested in seeing how the western media and politicians will try to hide this fact.

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    Posted by Ilja NB | July 18, 2014, 7:40 am
  6. The guilty ones must not be allowed to cover up or blame others in their political game of war and world control of the truth. We must all share the truth using the power of the www.

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    Posted by Chris Wilman | July 18, 2014, 3:26 pm
  7. “civil air-traffic controller along with other foreigners” are lucky to be alive because the present leaders of Ukraine government killed their political rivals when they lost the general election before last(that is how they won the last general election).

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    Posted by Bobby Dias | July 18, 2014, 5:22 pm
  8. This was an Israeli False Flag operation. Go to jimstonefreelance.com for more info.

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    Posted by jewcrime | July 18, 2014, 5:57 pm
  9. Yes, why would Russia shoot down a plane? Yet if it could be blamed on Russia – would lead to certain political goals, such as sanctions. I am fairly certain that this plane was guided to its destination and that there may have been no one on board because – voila! the in-your-face of a missing Malaysian Airlines jet. Any thoughts on the matter, Richard Quest (who somehow managed to fly with the missing co-pilot only 2 weeks before – either in a real plane or a simulator). They cannot hide all the stage magic anymore. And there are too many people who dispute the story with too much at stake.

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    Posted by musings | July 18, 2014, 7:22 pm
  10. I will reblog this at Vidrebel.WordPress.com . You have done great work. If we work together, we can defeat this attempt to start World War III. Thanks.

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    Posted by horse237 | July 18, 2014, 7:24 pm
  11. Reblogged this on Video Rebel's Blog and commented:
    The Shoot Down of Flight 17 was a crude attempt to start World War III. If we all work together. can stop this incident from becoming another Gulf of Tonkin incident.

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    Posted by horse237 | July 18, 2014, 7:28 pm
  12. The English translation was sloppy and seemed hastily done, although it does have some merits. I have a few years translating from English to Spanish and vice versa for websites and I think I’ve managed to get a little different sense out of what the Spanish air-traffic controller was saying– perhaps a significantly different meaning in places. Mine was the first translation into Spanish of David Ray Griffin’s “40 Reasons to Doubt the Official Story of 9/11″. I was very happy to find the original Spanish here, because I recently did a translation of some excerpts, along with some accompanying Russian, into English. I was extremely puzzled as to why the Spanish controller would say that, “no lo derribo un caza” [of course, meaning ‘derribó’], or in English “it wasn’t downed by a jet fighter”. Then I believed a sensed enough of his mood to realize that at this point his tweeting had been discovered. You can see the translation I’m talking about here: https://plus.google.com/114403300632291384127/posts/XhgHipB2Qqf I can be reached at the e-mail address I left, and then we’ll see how I can send you my translation, which maybe by then will be finished.

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    Posted by Atlanta Bill | July 18, 2014, 9:32 pm
  13. Follow-up. If I can have your permission, I could simply post my finished translation of the Spanish controller’s tweets on my Google Plus site.

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    Posted by Atlanta Bill | July 18, 2014, 9:35 pm
  14. im british and i only know that the fucking lying politicians throughout nato are trying to exert thier new world order. I dont know what happened to the airliner but absolutely nothing would surprise me. False flag attacks are a favourite of the yanks.

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    Posted by ray | July 18, 2014, 11:01 pm
  15. This Spanish Air Controller, by the name of Carlos, was interviewed by RT Spanish on May 8th 2014. He claimed he was threatened with death by Ukrainian officials. He says if he and his family left Kiev at that time. Now he saying he was back? Not a reliable source.

    http://actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/view/127516-amenazar-controlador-espanol-ucrania-crisis

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    Posted by Mick Jones | July 19, 2014, 3:30 am
  16. Reblogged this on Augmented Ether and commented:
    The last tweets of the Spanish Air Traffic Controller in Kiev, he singled out the government for the crash.

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    Posted by Augmented Ether | July 19, 2014, 5:41 am
  17. I send a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpSmiMlwK7U about the shot-down of the Malaysian airflight 17. I don´t believe it´s a fake.

    Is the video real, the would be the airplane not from a 70 kilogramm warhead of the BuK M1 shot-down. This would have torn the airplane to pieces. Is it possible that the airplane was attacked from a fighter plane with a smaller warhead – a heatsearching air-air-rocket?

    Do we stand shortly before a great war?

    Please, investigate the true facts and help with your strength to prevent a war.

    Liked by 1 person

    Posted by Bernd Marterer | July 19, 2014, 6:04 am
  18. over on FB

    Jorge Alberich Anuchin
    18 hrs ·
    Buenos días a todos!
    Me gustaría dejar nuevas cosas en claro respecto a información sobre el vuelo Malasya Airlines 17 (MH 17)
    1. @spainbuca (cuenta suspendida por Twitter) – Es real; verificada con IP de Ucrania. Esta persona tenia doble nacionalidad (Española y Ucraniana); Muchas páginas web afirman barbaridades respecto a el SIN TENER PRUEBAS.
    2. A través de varios servicios confidenciales y privados, existen análisis de la cuenta de @spainbuca; por lo que actualmente descartamos lo que va por Twitter: “@spainbuca es un fake” – La cuenta era real; y los datos en ella también!
    3. Me han informado a través de varias fuentes lo siguiente: Me afirman que USA mando una orden a Twitter Inc. para eliminar la cuenta de @spainbuca por motivos “desconocidos”.
    4. Existen señales de varias personas que trabajan para empresas de “http” que confirman que USA mandaba órdenes a Ucrania (Kiev).
    Bueno señores, eso era todo de lo que podía informar. Las fuentes de información son confidenciales.
    ‪#‎Ukraine‬ ‪#‎spainbuca‬ ‪#‎Kiev‬ ‪#‎MalasyanAirlines17‬ ‪#‎MH17‬ ‪#‎Boeing777‬
    Good morning to all!
    I would like to make new things clear regarding information about flying Malaysia Airlines 17 (MH 17) 1. @spainbuca (suspended by Twitter account) – is real; verified IP of Ukraine. This person had dual nationality (Spanish and Ukrainian); Many websites say terrible things about the without having evidence.

    2 on several private and confidential services, there are analysis of the count of @spainbuca; by what currently rule out so far on Twitter: “@spainbuca is a fake” – the account was real; and the data in it also!

    3. I have been informed through various sources as follows: claim Me that it uses command order to Twitter Inc. to delete the @spainbuca account for “unknown” reasons.

    4. There are signs of several people working for companies of “http” confirming that USA sent orders to Ukraine (Kiev).

    Good gentlemen, that was all that could inform. The sources of information are confidential.

    #Ukraine #spainbuca #Kiev #MalasyanAirlines17 #MH17 #Boeing777 (Translated by Bing)

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    Posted by brian | July 19, 2014, 6:07 am
  19. Original Copied Text from spainbuca’s twitter, followed by a very poor google translation. I apologize for such a long post.. just want to keep all the information available- I kept everything I copied, which included his “regular life” tweets just before the mh17 incident.

    Tweets
    Tweets and replies

    Retweeted by ? Carlos.
    CNN en Español @CNNEE · 6h

    ¿Qué tipo de arma pudo haber derribado el avión de Malaysia Airlines? http://cnn.it/WlmSwJ #MH17 pic.twitter.com/fmOVUVcgTB
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    Politica Mexicana @politicosmex · 7h

    #CNN obtuvo vídeo donde, el vuelo #MH17 tiene un ala incendiada antes de estrellarse pic.twitter.com/tbPd6WLlUN Malaysia Airlines
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    Mi Razh @mirazh1000 · 6h

    @spainbuca como si fueras tú el mejor experto de lo que está pasando allí http://inosmi.ru/world/20140718/221741366.html
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    Retweeted by ? Carlos.
    George Hatcher Sr. @GeorgeHatcher · 6h

    We cannot verify these #MH17 pix shared with us pic.twitter.com/19T8O7dpuI
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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 7h

    Yo no formó parte de este conflicto, como el 80/100 de los ciudadanos de aquí que solo quieren vivir en paz, pro uno y pro otros

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    ? Carlos. followed itxaP and Alberto Gorki
    itxaP
    @itxaP

    Journalist freelance in Middle East – Isabel P. HispanTV – http://www.eldiario.es/http://diagonalperiodico.net
    Alberto Gorki
    @Alberto_Gorki

    Antifascista
    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 7h

    Por desgracia se van confirmando todo, por desgracia, me da igual en lo personal quien lanzó el misil, hay 290 personas muertas

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 7h

    Algunas críticas son demoledoras, lo q tw son datos, gusten o no, solo datos y sobre mis tw del pasado es mi opinión a la q tengo derecho

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 8h

    El informe militar, recoge de donde fue lanzado el misil, el decir, que no se sabe es falso

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 8h

    Nuestra respuesta, fue, estos radares no recogen el lanzamiento de misiles, los militares si, ya no quedaban dudas

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 8h

    Es tal la decadencia que los militares acompañados de extranjeros que llegaron primero nos llegaron a pedir que dijéramos su versión

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 8h

    La cara de los militares que llegaron más tarde diciendo pero que habéis echo, no dejo dudas

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 8h

    La forma de tomar la torre de control minutos después sabiendo todo los detalles, rápido nos hizo pensar que habían sido ellos

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 8h

    290 personas inocentes muertas, . Por una guerra inútil, donde el patriotismo se compra con dinero

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 8h

    Mandos militares que si lo sabían y otros mandos que no,

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 8h

    Mandos militares aquí (ATC) torre de control, confirman que el misil es del ejercito de ukraine,

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 8h

    Los militares a las órdenes del ministro del interior conocían en cada momento lo que sucedió, .

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 8h

    Para el que no lo sepa, digamos así, hay militares a las órdenes del ministro de defensa y militares a las órdenes del ministro del interior

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 8h

    Los altos mandos militares no ordenaron el lanzamiento del misil, ,,alguien se le fue la mano en nombre de ukraine

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 8h

    Los radares militares si recogieron los datos del misil lanzado al avión, los radares civiles no

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 9h

    En el informe se indica de donde abría salido el misil, y se especifica que no proviene de las autodefensa en las zonas rebeldes

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 9h

    El informe oficial firmado por las autoridades militares de control de kiev ya lo tiene el gobierno,,,, , derribado

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    RT en Español @ActualidadRT · 9h

    ÚLTIMA HORA Controlador aéreo: El Boeing 777 “voló escoltado por 2 cazas ucranianos” antes de desaparecer #MH17 http://es.rt.com/yW7
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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 9h

    Control militar entrega ahora mismo de forma oficial que el avión fue derribado por misil

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 10h

    Se cierra el espacio aéreo, por miedo a más derribos

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 10h

    Se cierra el espacio aéreo

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 10h

    Los cazas volaron cerca del 777, hasta 3 minutos antes de desaparecer de los radares, solo 3 minutos

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 10h

    Hace dias lo dije aquí, militares de kiev querían alzarse contra el actual presidente, esto puede ser una forma, a las órdenes de timoshenko

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 11h

    Militares confirman que fue ukraine, pero se sigue sin saber de donde vino la orden

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 11h

    El ministro del interior si conocía que, hacían los cazas en la zona, el ministro de defensa no, .

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 11h

    Aquí los mandos militares manejan y admiten que militares a otras órdenes, pudieron ser, pero no, los pro-rusos

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 11h

    En los radares esta todo recogido, para los incrédulos, derribado por kiev, aquí lo sabemos y control aéreo militar también

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    ? Carlos. followed Carolina Ocampo, Manu Abu Carlos, John Müller and 3 others
    Carolina Ocampo
    @carito_ocampo

    Periodista Canal NTN24 Internacional
    Manu Abu Carlos
    @Manu_Abu_Carlos

    #SOSPalestina
    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 12h

    A los 7:00 minutos se notificó el derribo, más tarde se tomó la torre nuestra con personal extranjero q siguen aquí

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 12h

    Nada más desaparecer el avión B 777 de Malaysia Airlines la autoridad militar de kiev nos informo del derribo, como lo sabían?

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 12h

    Sí las autoridades de kiev, quieren decir la verdad, esta recogido 2 cazas volaron muy cerca minutos antes , no lo derribo un caza

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 12h

    El avión B 777 voló escoltado por 2 cazas de ukraine hasta minutos antes, de desaparecer de los radares,

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 13h

    Cuando sea posible sigo escribiendo

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 13h

    Que hace personal extranjero con autoridades de kiev en la torre? Recopilando toda la información

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 13h

    Nosotros tenemos la confirmación. Avión derribado, la autoridad de kiev, ya tiene la información, derribado, estamos tranquilos ahora

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    Retweeted by ? Carlos.
    Ricardo Marquina @RusiaSeMueve · 13h

    Mucho me temo que esto NO ha sido un accidente. Aqui a alguien se le ha ido la mano y espero que pague, sea quien sea

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 13h

    Antes de que me quiten el tlf o me rompan la cabeza, derribado por kiev

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 14h

    Nos van a quitar, nuestros tlf y demás de un momento a otro

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 14h

    Un accidente muy normal no es, no están amenazando en la misma torre del aeropuerto de kiev,

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 14h

    Kiev, tiene lo que buscaba, lo dije en los primeros tw, kiev es responsable @ActualidadRT

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 14h

    Avión derribado, derribados, derribado no accidente

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 14h

    El avión B777 de Malaysia Airlines desapareció del radar, no hubo comunicación de ninguna anomalia, confirmado

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    RT en Español @ActualidadRT · 14h

    #URGENTE: El Boeing 777 con 280 pasajeros desapareció de los radares cuando se encontraba a 10.000 m de altura http://es.rt.com/yVE
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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 14h

    Vuelven a tomar la torre de control en kiev

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 14h

    Cuidado! Kiev tiene lo que buscaba

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 14h

    Ojo! Que puede ser un derribo B777 Malaysia Airlines en ukraine, 280 pasajeros

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 14h

    Autoridades de kiev, intentan hacer que pueda parecer un ataque de los pro-rusos

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    Jason Rabinowitz @AirlineFlyer · 14h

    Here’s a route map of @MAS #MH17, which @flightaware lost track of right at the Ukraine/Poland border pic.twitter.com/IGvQJnkU7B
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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 14h

    B 777 Malaysia Airlines. 280 pasajeros accidente, se estrella en donetsk ukraine,

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    grasswire @grasswire · 14h

    Malaysian passenger plane with 280 passengers and 15 crew members crashed in Ukraine, near Russian border

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 14h

    B 777 Malaysia Airlines , se estrella en ukraine, frontera con rusia

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 14h

    Accidente de avión 777, de pasajeros, zona donetsk

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 14h

    Accidente aéreo, avión de pasajeros, se estrella en ukraine, zona donetsk

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    RT en Español @ActualidadRT · 14h

    #URGENTE: Un avión de pasajeros se estrella en la frontera de #Rusia y #Ucrania, según agencias http://actualidad.rt.com/
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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 15h

    Lo bueno de no estar en Madrid, 23 grados y tormenta pic.twitter.com/QYexayxC9D
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    Benhur @Lubalas · 15h

    @daniespsil @spainbuca En este breve MESSAGE TO UKRAINE hay una muy clara explicación de la moto que les vendieron https://twitter.com/CT4444/status/489417404062392321
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    Daniel Espiñeira @daniespsil · 16h

    @spainbuca si los ucranianos son tan estupidos d permitir todo esto,se merecen todo lo q les pase,mucho maidan mucha hostia,ahora es momento
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    edel pons @canmarrai · 16h

    @spainbuca Cada cual tiene lo que se merece Carlos, por eso espero que las tropas de Strelkov lleguen hasta Kiev.
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    Gervasio Sánchez @gervasanchez · 16h

    #bosnia Hace tiempo que he tirado la toalla: los seres humanos somos asesinos en potencia. Nos transformamos en monstruos con suma facilidad

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 16h

    Pero Europa, nosotros que todos somos Europa le seguirá dando dinero a kiev para pagar mercenarios #QueSeAcabeElMundoDeUnaPutaVez

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 16h

    Sí en kiev falta material sanitario en los hospitales, pues como será en las zonas del este del país, ,, uff #QueSeAcabeElMundoDeUnaPutaVez

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 16h

    La única solución es que él mundo se acabe de una puta vez, en el mismo kiev la gente se muere en los hospitales por falta de material

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    Luismix Euphorico @luismix81 · 17h

    Toma @EsperanzAguirre una ayudita, jajaja no sois mas tontos porque no robais mas #EspeVSPodemosM4 #PPridiculos pic.twitter.com/9t7rKVLBvT
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    Aina Díaz ? @AinaDiazV · 17h

    @pacomarhuenda @larazon_es Esto hace Israel con niños d Gaza. Espero esta imagen os persiga in eternum,SINVERGÜENZAS! pic.twitter.com/7pXVx2X4jp
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    Max Pradera @maxpradera · 17h

    El asesinato de los 4 niños asesinados mientras corren a guarecerse ya es uno de los documentos bélicos más horripilantes de la Historia.

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    Christopher Miller @ChristopherJM · 19h

    #Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council claims a Russian military plane has shot down a Ukrainian Su-25 jet http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/russian-military-plane-shot-down-ukrainian-su-25-aircraft-in-ukraine-356422.html

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 17h

    Sí vas a un hospital en kiev, tienes que comprar primero lo que necesites en las farmacias, el desabastecimiento es total,

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 17h

    Ukraine compra armas, las carga en sus aviones, pilotados por pilotos mercenarios, matan ciudadanos en el este, pero acusarán a rusia

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 17h

    Cómo sigan las acusaciones de ukraine a rusia, por todo, al final le acusará de un caso de gripe en la escuela 3 de la capital,

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 17h

    : El Tribunal de la Haya declara a Holanda responsable por la muerte de 300 musulmanes en #Srebrenica http://noticias.lainformacion.com/policia-y-justicia/derecho-internacional/el-tribunal-de-la-haya-declara-a-holanda-responsable-por-la-muerte-de-300-musulmanes_An3uPr29215uvoyt4ip587/ …” ya era hora

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 17h

    “@estherpalomera: Esperanza Aguirre es la española que más trabaja para Podemos de @Pablo_Iglesias_, dice Bono #pueseso” verdad

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    ??? ???? @DavidYabo · 18h

    Según una ultima hora, Israel niega aceptar el alto el fuego, y el ejército se prepara para la siguiente fase de la operación.

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 18h

    El PP sigue empeñado en hacer a @Pablo_Iglesias_ presidente

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    Pablo Gallego @PabGallego · 18h

    #Manipulación Si eres un niño palestino, mueres. Si eres un niño israelí, te asesinan pic.twitter.com/WV0PRB5EET
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    Slow Loris Watch @shekissesfrogs · 19h

    @lfaci @spainbuca 3594 missiles vs 1241 qassams 230 Palestinians killed1690 injured https://twitter.com/mlcalderone/status/489491221841477632https://twitter.com/Omar_Gaza/status/488851805862780928
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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 19h

    Tiran la carga de camiones con melocotón español en la frontera francesa http://rtve.es/n/975382/ pic.twitter.com/B4Nd0lbgXl” vuelven los 80
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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 19h

    Joder cómo están las cabezas en España, Esperanza Aguirre justifica las amenazas de muerte a Pablo Iglesias http://www.lasexta.com/noticias/nacional/aguirre-amenazas-iglesias-twitter-camarero-expulsado-ritz-han-atacado-casa-twitter-tambien_2014071700057.html

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    Luis Faci @lfaci · 20h

    Y un gráfico del NYT también muy llamativo. Balance de conflicto Gaza-Israel: pic.twitter.com/QTQv5jU6dN
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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 20h

    “@lfaci: Una imagen : cuál de los dos periodistas lleva chaleco antibalas. pic.twitter.com/lTJfZw26j6 Vía @arartekosa” Israel ataca periodistas
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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 20h

    Israel ataca ahora a los periodistas, pueden ser terroristas http://www.trust.org/item/20140716180432-4x4ws/ … @DavidYabo

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    Juan de Dios Castro @castrovico · 22h

    @ibansd @DavidYabo @RoeCeli @spainbuca Disparar impunemente contra niños jugando no es error. Es ASESINATO
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    mikel ayestaran @mikelayestaran · 22h

    Los niños muertos en #Gaza no son propaganda de #hamás, es una realidad diaria desde hace 10 días

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    ? Carlos. @spainbuca · 23h

    #SaveDonbassPeople FromUkrainianArmy #WarCrimes pic.twitter.com/7BWiMMHrkw” y mientras tanto Kiev sigue su matanza

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    CNN in Spanish @ CNNEE · 6h

    What kind of weapon could have shot down the plane of Malaysia Airlines? http://cnn.it/WlmSwJ # MH17 pic.twitter.com / fmOVUVcgTB
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    Mexicana @ politicosmex · Privacy 7h

    # CNN obtained video where flight # MH17 has a wing on fire before crashing pic.twitter.com/tbPd6WLlUN Malaysia Airlines
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    My Razh @ mirazh1000 · 6h

    @ spainbuca as if you were the best expert on what is happening there … http://inosmi.ru/world/20140718/221741366.html
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    Mr. George Hatcher @ GeorgeHatcher · 6h

    We can not Verify These # MH17 pix shared with us pic.twitter.com/19T8O7dpuI
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    ? Carlos. 7h @ spainbuca ·

    I was not part of this conflict, as 80/100 citizens here who just want to live in peace, pro and one other pro

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    ? Carlos. 7h @ spainbuca ·

    Unfortunately all are confirmed, unfortunately, I do not care personally who launched the missile, there are 290 people dead

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    ? Carlos. 7h @ spainbuca ·

    Some reviews are devastating, tw q what is data, like it or not, only data on my last tw is my opinion I have the right q

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 8h

    The military report, picks up where the missile was launched, saying that no one knows is false

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 8h

    Our response was, these radars do not collect launching missiles, the military if there were no doubts

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 8h

    Such is the decline that accompanied the military foreigners who came first came to us asking us to tell your version

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 8h

    The face of the soldiers who came later saying but you have cast, I keep doubts

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 8h

    How to take the control tower minutes after knowing all the details, fast made ??us think that they were

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 8h

    290 dead innocent people. What a useless war, where patriotism is bought with money

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 8h

    If military commanders and other superiors knew not,

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 8h

    Military commanders here (ATC) control tower, confirm that the missile is the army of ukraine,

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 8h

    The soldiers under the orders of Interior Minister knew at all times what happened.

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 8h

    For those who do not know, say so, there are military orders of the defense minister and military orders of Interior Minister

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 8h

    The military high command did not order the release of the missile, he was someone’s hand on behalf of ukraine

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 8h

    Military radar data collected if missile launched the plane, no civilian radar

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 9am

    The report indicates where the missile left open, and is specified is not of the self in rebel areas

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 9am

    The official report signed by the military authorities in Kiev already control the government has,,,, downed

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    RT @ ActualidadRT in Spanish · 9am

    LAST MINUTE Air Traffic Controller: The Boeing 777 “flew fighters escorted by two Ukrainians” before disappearing # MH17 http://es.rt.com/yW7
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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 9am

    Control delivers military now officially the plane was shot down by missile

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 10h

    Airspace is closed over demolition for fear

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 10h

    Closes airspace

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 10h

    The fighters flew about 777, up to 3 minutes before disappearing from the radar, just 3 minutes

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 10h

    Days ago I said here, kiev military wanted to rise against the current president, this may be a way to timoshenko orders

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 11h

    Military ukraine confirm that he was, but still does not know where the order came

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 11h

    Interior Minister if he knew that the fighters were in the area, the defense minister not.

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 11h

    Here the military commanders who manage and support to other military orders, could be, but no, the pro-Russian

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 11h

    In radar this all collected, for unbelievers, brought down by kiev, here we know and military air traffic control also

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 12h

    At 7:00 minutes the demolition was notified later the tower was taken with our foreign staff still here q

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 12h

    Just disappear aircraft B 777 Malaysia Airlines kiev military authority informed us of the demolition, as you know?

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 12h

    Yes kiev authorities want to tell the truth, I picked this 2 fighters flew very close minutes before, not shooting down a fighter

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 12h

    The plane flew B 777 escorted by two fighter ukraine until minutes before disappearing from the radar,

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 13h

    When possible I keep writing

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 13h

    Expatriate staff makes kiev authorities in the tower? Gathering all the information

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 13h

    We have confirmation. Downed aircraft, the authority of Kiev, already has the information down, we are calm now

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    Ricardo Marquina @ RusiaSeMueve · 13h

    I fear that this has NOT been an accident. Here is someone has gone too far and I hope to pay, no matter who is

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 13h

    Before I remove the tlf or I break the head, flattened by kiev

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 14h

    We will remove our tel and others at any moment

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 14h

    An accident is not just average, are not threatening in the same tower of Kiev airport

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 14h

    Kiev, is what I wanted, I said in the first tw, kiev is responsible @ ActualidadRT

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 14h

    Plane shot down, shot down, shot down no accident

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 14h

    The Malaysia Airlines B777 aircraft disappeared from the radar, there was no communication of any anomaly, confirmed

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    RT @ ActualidadRT in Spanish · 14h

    # URGENT: The Boeing 777 with 280 passengers disappeared from radar when it was at 10,000 m altitude http://es.rt.com/yVE
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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 14h

    Retake control tower in kiev

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 14h

    I care! Kiev has what you want

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 14h

    Eye! That may be a demolition Malaysia Airlines B777 in ukraine, 280 passengers

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 14h

    Authorities kiev, trying to make may seem an attack by pro-Russian

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    Jason Rabinowitz @ AirlineFlyer · 14h

    Here’s a route map of @ MAS # MH17, que @ FlightAware lost track of right at the Ukraine / Poland border pic.twitter.com/IGvQJnkU7B
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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 14h

    B 777 Malaysia Airlines. 280 passengers crash, crashes in donetsk ukraine,

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    grasswire @ grasswire · 14h

    Malaysian passenger plane with 280 passengers and 15 crew members crashed in Ukraine, near Russian border

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 14h

    B 777 Malaysia Airlines, crashes in ukraine, russia border

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 14h

    Plane crash 777 passengers, donetsk area

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 14h

    Plane crash passenger plane crashes in ukraine, donetsk area

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    RT @ ActualidadRT in Spanish · 14h

    # URGENT: A passenger plane crashes on the border of Ukraine # Russia and # as agencies http://actualidad.rt.com/
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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 15h

    The good thing about not being in Madrid, 23 degrees and storm pic.twitter.com/QYexayxC9D
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    Benhur @ Lubalas · 15h

    @ @ spainbuca daniespsil This short MESSAGE TO UKRAINE is a very clear explanation of the bike that sold them https://twitter.com/CT4444/status/489417404062392321
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    Daniel Espiñeira @ daniespsil · 16h

    @ spainbuca if Ukrainians are so stupid d allow this, they deserve whatever happens to them q much much maidan host, now is the time
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    edel pons @ canmarrai · 16h

    @ spainbuca Everyone has what he deserves Carlos, so I hope I Strelkov troops arrive to Kiev.
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    Gervasio Sánchez @ gervasanchez · 16h

    # bosnia I have long since thrown in the towel: human beings are potential murderers. We become monsters with ease

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 16h

    But Europe, we who are all Europe will give you money to pay mercenaries kiev # QueSeAcabeElMundoDeUnaPutaVez

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 16h

    Yes in kiev lack medical supplies in hospitals because, as will be in the eastern parts of the country,,, uff # QueSeAcabeElMundoDeUnaPutaVez

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 16h

    The only solution is world ends he fuck up in the same kiev people die in hospitals due to lack of equipment

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    Luismix Euphorico @ luismix81 · 17h

    Shot @ EsperanzAguirre a little help, lol are no more fools because Robais mas # # PPridiculos pic.twitter.com/9t7rKVLBvT EspeVSPodemosM4
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    Aina Diaz ? @ AinaDiazV · 17h

    @ pacomarhuenda @ larazon_es This makes Israel-friendly d Gaza. I hope this dog in eternum, scoundrels! pic.twitter.com/7pXVx2X4jp
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    Max · Meadow @ maxpradera 17h

    The murder of 4 children killed as they run for cover is already one of the most gruesome war documents in history.

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    Christopher Miller @ ChristopherJM · 19h

    # Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council claims to have Russian military plane shot down by Ukrainian Su-25 jet http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/russian-military-plane-shot-down-ukrainian-su-25-aircraft-in-ukraine-356422.html

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 17h

    Yes go to a hospital in Kiev, you have to buy the first thing you need in pharmacies, the shortage is total,

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 17h

    Ukraine buys weapons, the load on their aircraft, flown by mercenary pilots, kill citizens in the east, but accuse Russia

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 17h

    How to keep allegations of ukraine russia, around the end will be accused of a case of influenza in school 3 capital

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 17h

    : The Hague Tribunal declares Netherlands responsible for the killing of 300 Muslims in Srebrenica # http://noticias.lainformacion.com/policia-y-justicia/derecho-internacional/el-tribunal-de-la-haya-declara-a-holanda-responsable-por-la-muerte-de-300-musulmanes_An3uPr29215uvoyt4ip587/ … “It’s about time

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 17h

    “@ estherpalomera: Esperanza Aguirre is the Spanish working more for can of @ Pablo_Iglesias_ says Bono # pueseso??” truth

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    ??? ???? @ DavidYabo · 18h

    According to a last minute, Israel refuses to accept the ceasefire and the army is preparing for the next phase of the operation.

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 18h

    The PP remains committed to make @ Pablo_Iglesias_ President

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    Pablo Gallego @ PabGallego · 18h

    # Handling If you’re a Palestinian child die. If you are an Israeli child, you kill pic.twitter.com/WV0PRB5EET
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    Slow Loris Watch @ shekissesfrogs · 19h

    @ @ spainbuca lfaci missiles vs 1241 3594 230 Qassams killed1690 palestinians injured https://twitter.com/Omar_Gaza/status/488851805862780928 https://twitter.com/mlcalderone/status/489491221841477632 … …
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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 19h

    Tiran loading trucks with Spanish peach on the French border http://rtve.es/n/975382/ pic.twitter.com/B4Nd0lbgXl “become 80
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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 19h

    Hell how the heads are in Spain, Esperanza Aguirre justifies death threats to Pablo Iglesias http://www.lasexta.com/noticias/nacional/aguirre-amenazas-iglesias-twitter-camarero-expulsado-ritz-han-atacado-casa-twitter-tambien_2014071700057.html

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    ? Retweeted by Carlos.
    Luis Faci @ lfaci · 20h

    And the NYT chart also very striking. Balance Gaza-Israel conflict: pic.twitter.com/QTQv5jU6dN
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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 20h

    “@ lfaci: An image. Which of the two journalists wearing bulletproof vest pic.twitter.com/lTJfZw26j6 Via @ arartekosa” Israel attacked journalists
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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 20h

    Israel now attacking journalists may be terrorists http://www.trust.org/item/20140716180432-4x4ws/ … @ DavidYabo

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    ? Retweeted by Carlos.
    Juan de Dios Castro @ castrovico · 22h

    ibansd DavidYabo @ @ @ @ spainbuca Shoot RoeCeli impunity against children playing is no mistake. It is MURDER
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    ? Retweeted by Carlos.
    @ mikel ayestaran mikelayestaran · 22h

    The dead children in Gaza are not # # hamas propaganda, it is a daily reality for 10 days

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    ? Carlos. @ spainbuca · 23h

    # # Warcrimes pic.twitter.com/7BWiMMHrkw SaveDonbassPeople FromUkrainianArmy “and meanwhile continues his killing Kiev

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    Posted by Soverign Beings | July 19, 2014, 7:15 am
  20. Video which implicated pro-Russian rebels was manufactured one day before the accident.

    Ukrainian air traffic controllers told the pilot of MH 17 to lower the altitude by 2,000 feet.

    Time stamp says it all:

    BUSTED! Ukraine Caught Trying to ‘Frame Russia’ for Shooting Down Malaysia Flight MH17!

    “Due to their sloppy work, They have been caught! They have since tried to delete the file, but not before it was downloaded over 800 times!”

    Bombshell! Proof That Malaysia Flight MH17 Was Diverted Over Ukraine War Zone!

    Rebel Leader Says Many of the Dead Bodies in MH17 Weren’t “Fresh”

    http://www.thedailysheeple.com/ rebel-leader-says-many-of-the-dead-bodies-in-mh17-werent-fresh_072014

    Are They Wagging the Dog?

    If this was a planned false flag attack, the perpetrators must have known the flight list and false flags usually have multiple goals. The LGBT community needs to ask themselves, why this particular plane with 100 Aids scientists aboard diverted?

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    Posted by gerry d welder | July 19, 2014, 1:32 pm
  21. Fascinating account.
    Still strikes me as disinfo…

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    Posted by DarkStarAz | July 19, 2014, 8:11 pm
  22. whoever it was… the investegators will find out.. because this plane didnt dissapear, all planes that have been found.. even totally burned out.. have been reconstucted into animations so they could never happen again.. it’s impossible to avoid the fact they fill find out what and who shot the missile.. Look at this way.. when the experts confirm it was a missile.. they are going to investegate the millitary.. If they dont allow the experts to investegate, you will get problems with countries like: the netherlands, belgium ( most leaders of the EU ) but also, the USA, canada, australia, malaysia, germany. they have to allow the experts to check the millitary.. what they did that day.. so they will find out who it was.

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    Posted by Jenne | July 19, 2014, 11:27 pm
  23. Thanks for an interesting blog. Re what actually happened with MH17, there are indications that UA military were using civilian planes to piggy-back fighter jets behind them, to bomb the rebels’ strongholds. There is a video on youtube, posted a month ago, where a militiaman complains that UA fighter jets that bombed them came behind a civil passenger plane. Is it possible that UA military were trying to use the same tactic on the day when MH17 went down? This would explain why they diverted the airliner father north from its usual route and made it fly 2000 feet lower.

    This would mean that MH17 was probably shot down by the rebels who thought that it was a UA cargo plane accompanied by 2 fighters. Though this version of events does not fit Carlos’ account about the discrepancy in info between the military and interior ministries personnel.. and his insistence that the missile was fired by the UA side. ..but how did he become privy to this info? Surely the military did not reveal this to foreign traffic controllers, so this must have been an assumption on his part, or he heard it, perhaps from someone else -? (But in any rate, of course Carlos in Borispol would know better than I behind my comp on the other side of the world.)

    In any rate, even if UA did not shoot the plane, them using it as a shield to sneak 2 fighter jets into the rebel territory is enough to put the blame squarely on them. But if it turns out that, in addition, they (UA ground forces) were the ones who shot it down… well, Kiev will get what’s coming to them. Fully.

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    Posted by M.Vasilyeva | July 20, 2014, 4:10 am
  24. Reblogged this on BPI reblog and commented:
    FINAL – Spanish Air Controller @ Kiev Borispol Airport: Ukraine Military Shot Down Boeing #MH17

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    Posted by boudicabpi | July 20, 2014, 1:35 pm
  25. One thing makes this tweet-log suspect: Control Towers sole purpose is to guide starts and landings of aircraft on airports. It’s not a tower-controller’s job to follow flights in cruise. Given that, why would authorities come to Kiev tower , take control or even confiscate useless material?? Does not make any sense!

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    Posted by KenMeyer (@KenMeyr) | July 20, 2014, 4:39 pm
  26. Reblogged this on Tinthor’s Blog and commented:
    And this is something what the Dutch media (NOS-Journal, RTL-News etc.) never showed to us by now….The downing of MH-17 is a clear staged hoax, ment to put the blame of this horribel and gruesame tragedy with President Vladimir Putin…Furthermore, it is Premier Poroshenko who is the warring party, while Putin is very restraint regarding his actions.

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    Posted by tinthor | July 20, 2014, 6:45 pm
  27. Looking at the timings of these Tweets there’s an inconsistency. Official reports say flight MH-17 went down shortly before 13:20 UTC. What timezone was Carlos working to as he announced the aircraft was shot down at 10:30???

    Can someone please explain?

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    Posted by Han of Arian | July 20, 2014, 8:07 pm
  28. Who are the foreigners with the military in the tower of control ?

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    Posted by Gauthier | July 20, 2014, 10:15 pm
  29. I left a comment here the other day. Initially I believed “Carlos the controller”. But then I came across a lot of info that could discredit him, but none of it would matter –and indeed could be explained ‘away’– IF ONLY he twitted in real time.

    But his first twit was at 10:21 PDT, which can still be seen in google cache. PDT is Pacific Daylight Time, which is UTC-7. This makes his first twit at 17:21 UTC, which is several hours after the event and even hours after the news broke.

    Too bad no one else was interested in such a simple thing as timing of his twits. Again, if only they were in real time or at least before the news was widely reported.. ..but hours after the fact.. what a waste of time.

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    Posted by M.Vasilyeva | July 21, 2014, 8:18 pm
  30. Which time zone do you have set your Twitter account with which you have taken these @spainbuca tweets?

    This is important since Twitter displays tweets using that local time of your time zone you have set for your Twitter account.

    Thank you.

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    Posted by hzo | July 25, 2014, 1:56 am
  31. Interesujące spojrzenie na myśl, każdy winien rozczytać dodatkowo
    zaznajomić się z motywem.

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    Posted by imprezy dla firm gliwice | August 7, 2014, 9:30 am
  32. The Dutch leader of the research team that has studied the CVR recordings came out of the building where they did the research and said to Ducth journalists “We know what has happened, we don’t need to go to Urkaine to look”. 2 days later he got called back by his bosses, and now the story is that the investigation will take 1 to 2 years… And even though they “don’t know what has happened” yet, they already effected the sanctions against Russia… Sollution, reaction, problem… We are being set up by warmongers here…

    Liked by 1 person

    Posted by Ash | October 16, 2014, 11:04 pm

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