Preamble: This is an eyewitness account, and, as such, is considered to be direct evidence, which, if accepted by a court, would be sufficient for a finding of criminal liability in the absence of any corroborating documentary, video or audio evidence whatsoever. In my opinion (and in the opinion of others) this testimony would be found authentic and credible if presented in court. Any disbelievers should consider the limitations of their own minds, which, much like my own, refuse to accept the horrific reality of war crimes and crimes against humanity being committed by the Ukrainian forces in Novorossiya. I have already written on this issue here, in relation to Fyodor Berezin’s account of the Ukrainian atrocities in the village of Saurovka. My preamble to the first interview given by Galina Pyshnyak may also be helpful.
Video: Galina Pyshnyak Remembers the Execution of a Child and His Mother (w/ENG subtitles)
Link to the First Interview by Galina Pyshnyak.
Translated from Russian by Gleb Bazov
TV Anchor: It has been a week today from the time that the Kiev forces entered Slavyansk after the Militia had withdrawn from the city. And the story told to us by an inhabitant of a refugee camp in the Rostov region dates also from the time [following the surrender of Slavyansk].
She spoke about a public execution. The woman said her name was Galina, from Slavyansk, a mother of four children and a native of Western Ukraine. Her relatives’ displeasure was brought on by the fact that her husband left to join the ranks of the Militia.
Our conversation with Galina left us with complex feelings. You will now have an opportunity to appreciate the reasons why. The mind refuses to understand how something like this can be possible, in our day and age, in the centre of Europe. The heart does not want to admit that something like this can be real. On the other hand, here is her story.
Galina Pyshnyak: In the centre of the city there is the Lenin square. There is the mayoralty on the one side. This is the only square where all the people can be corralled.
On the square, women had gathered – this is because there are no more men left. There are only women and the elderly left. And this is what you call a public execution.
They took a child, 3 years old, a little boy. He was wearing little briefs and a t-shirt. They nailed him, like Jesus, to the announcement board. One of them was nailing him, while two others held him fast. And this was all in front of his mother’s eyes.
(starting to cry) They were holding the mother, and the mother watched all this happen – how the child was shedding blood, screaming, crying. And then they made cuts [on his body], like this [showing with her hands] – so the child would suffer. It was impossible [to be] there. People were losing consciousness.
And then, the mother – after the child suffered an hour and half and died after all of this – they took the mother, tied her, unconscious, to a tank and dragged her around the square three times. And to go around the square once is one kilometre.
Yuliya Chumakova: After this interview, especially, you will be facing grave danger, do I understand this correctly?
Galina Pyshnyak: I am like a traitor to my motherland now, because I was born in the Zakarpattia region. My own mother told me: “When you will come back, I will shoot you myself.” And the National Guard wants to execute me. I am on two execution lists.
I am just worried for the future of my children. As for me, I am not afraid for myself – I only feel sorry for my children. I pity my children. To be frank, if it was not for kids, I would have taken up arms myself and gone to fight them. They are not the Ukrainian army. They are not liberators. They are beasts.
When they entered the city, there was not one militiaman there. They shelled the city, they engaged in looting. Not even fascists did things like this. Not even fascists!
But this uprising – these are great-grandchildren of SS Galychyna that reared up their heads. Because I am native to Zakarpattia, old grandmas would tell us that not even fascists did the things that were done by the SS Galychyna group. They were locals, and they tortured the locals, raped their wives, killed children. And these are who the people who rose up – their great-grandsons. They came back from [damnation], they were reborn again.
Yuliya Chumakova: Are you not afraid to talk about this?
Galina Pyshnyak: Let the entire world know how they torture people! Because no one believes it! No one knows. And these phosphorus bombs too, these frag shells that children would come and bring us – there were barbs, there were spikes – the kinds of things they would find! And all these corpses that would lie there and we had nowhere to [move them] – the morgue did not work. All this stench of decomposing bodies. No one [in the outside world] would believe it otherwise. Because there was nobody there – no one saw it. Because for them it’s savagery.
Just yesterday night, this night, when there was shooting, my child did not even stir. Did not even move an ear. Because they are used to the sound by now. My youngest, 7 years of age, said: “Mom, what is it? Are they bombing again?” And then continued [indicating the child going back to sleep] …
Yuliya Chumakova: To sleep?
Galina Pyshnyak: And went back to sleep.
Yuliya Chumakova: You were so brave to open your face [to the camera]. You gave us your name. Are you not at all afraid?
Galina Pyshnyak: Because, like I am telling you, in three months I have turned to stone.
Yuliya Chumakova: What are you hoping for? It makes sense that, some day, this will all be over.
Galina Pyshnyak: Give us freedom. There are no Russians. No Russians are fighting. These are simple workingmen, common miners, workers, that rose up. Rose up because they had reached their limit. How long can this bloodletting go on? We are all human. We are all of the same blood. Don’t divide us, we are all people.
Yes, there are also among us, and also among them, yes, there are bad people. I am not suggesting that we are all saints. But we are all people. There should never be war, in any situation – people should negotiate. Use words. And a kind word will always prevail.
Yuliya Chumakova: Thank you very much for agreeing to tell us all of this. And good luck.